normalize attack on high level daggers

[dugtrio]

it doesnt make sense that the level 90 dagger is only +3 attack higher compared to the level 80 dagger.
im suggesting normalizing the attack on daggers to +5 attack per tier from the level 80 dagger and above.
so if the level 80 dagger is 85 attack, the level 90 should be 90 attack, level 100 should be 95 attack, level 110 should be 100 attack and so on...

[potsplease]

for continuity agree

[Rykbi]

+1 The attack difference seems low compared to other physical damage based classes.

[Arnah]

It's only a +3 because daggers have 2 options usually the other is +2 higher than the other from what I see. Unless I'm missing something extra?

[dugtrio]

if you mean str daggers having +2 more attack than luk, its unrelated to this, im talking about how tier to tier upgrades to luk daggers doesnt make sense at lv90
                           str   |  luk
lv80 :                  85      85
lv90:                   90      88
lv100:                 95      93
lv110:                 100     98

that "+2 higher than the other" was applied to daggers lv80+ by giving lv90 luk dagger +3 att instead of +5, while the more sensible way of making str daggers +2 attack than luk daggers is just raising their attack by +2 compared to luk, while keeping the +5 attack gain per tier after lvl80 to both.
the change im suggesting looks like this:
                           str   |  luk
lv80 :                  87      85
lv90:                   92      90
lv100:                 97      95
lv110:                 102     100

[Arnah]

16 hours ago, dugtrio said:

im talking about how tier to tier upgrades to luk daggers doesnt make sense at lv90

It doesn't make sense because 70 to 80 is a +8 for the luk dagger when it's a +5 for str, then nexon 'fixes' it by doing a +3 from 80 to 90 for luk while its a +5 for str.

All levels after are +5. Am I missing something? Only thing I see is I should probably fix the +8 and +3 to both be +5's

level | str | luk | diff
50    | 65  | 62  | +10
60    | 75  | 72  | +5
70      | 80  | 77  | +5 / +8
80    | 85  | 85  | +5 / +3
90    | 90  | 88  | +5
100   | 95  | 93  | +5
110   | 100 | 98  | +5
120   | 105 | 103 | +2
120#2 | 107 | 105 | xx
 

[dugtrio]

lvl | str | luk | diff
30 | 45 | 45 | +10
40 | 55 | 55 | +10 /+7
50 | 65 | 62 | 

i think they mightve fixed the +7 from tier 40 to 50 by giving the lv80 +8 from lvl 70, that still means the +3 att from 80 to 90 is unneeded
if we look at other +5/+10 per tier weapons they all end up +70 att from lvl10->100 weapon
lvl10 spear : 32 att  lvl100 spear:102 att
lvl10 2 handed sword : 30 att       lvl100 2 handed sword : 100 att
lvl10 bow : 25 att     lvl100 bow : 95 att
2 handed mace : 32 att    lv100 2 handed mace : 102

since dagger starts at 12 with 27 att, and its 10 att per 10 lvls on lower lvl weapons we can convert it to lvl 10 25 att
lvl10 dagger 25 att   
lvl 100 dagger would be 95 if it was consistent like other weapons, but its 93 att 
that means its missing the +2 att that missing on 90+ daggers
 

[manfroy]

+1 it never really made sense why the reg daggers past 80 dont have the same att as the str ones. on board for the proposed buff as it doesnt really change the state of str bandits but does help regular build users
 

Edited April 10, 2023 by manfroy

[dugtrio]

str daggers should still be +2 attack than luk daggers, so they should also be fixed

lvl | str | luk | diff
30 | 47 | 45 | +10
40 | 57 | 55 | +10 
50 | 67 | 65 | +10
60  | 77  | 75  | +5
70   | 82  | 80  | +5 
80   | 87  | 85  | +5 
90   | 92  | 90  | +5
100  | 97  | 95  | +5
110  | 102 | 100  | +5

this is what it should be if it was consistent like other +5/+10 per tier weapons

[dugtrio]

bump

 

[manfroy]

bump

[manfroy]

again bump

[Arnah]

fixed

will see if I remember to fix current 90+ daggers